The Greek word most often used for “sin” in the Bible is harmartia. Its root meaning is a missing of a mark or target, but such a definition reveals very little until the "mark" is identified. Theologically speaking, some would say that the mark is all of the character and attributes of God Himself, meaning that any action, word, or thought that is not equal to the manner, quality, or quantity with which God would perform the same action is sin. By this definition, for example, if a person does not love with the quantity or quality with which God would love, then he is sinning. This is a fair attempt at defining the mark and, by extension, sin, but it is flawed as follows.
A basic doctrine, which I will not defend here, is that there will be no sin in heaven. Yet, even in heaven no one will be able to hit the mark as it is defined above. No person will be able to love to the degree or with the quality with which God loves. If a person were able to match this and all of God's other character attributes, then he would be a god himself. Scripture does not allow for the possibility of a created being becoming a god, for there is only one god. If someone wishes to hold to this definition of sin, let him show that there will be sin in heaven or how he can attain to the character attributes of God when reaching heaven.
A second and perhaps more convincing way that this definition is flawed is in the lack of Scriptural backing for it. In fact, Scripture seems to define sin and the mark rather differently, and here is the definition I have put together based on biblical evidence.
A person sins only when he acts in opposition to what he knows is right or to what he should know is right. These acts are defined as any action taken in doing what is known to be wrong or in not doing what is known to be right, and this set of actions includes those which are in opposition to facts not known but for which an individual is responsible for knowing. These acts can be performed in thought, word, or deed.
And now I will provide the evidence for this definition.
John 9:41
Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, "We see; your sin remains."
In context, blindness refers to lack of knowledge of the truth. Here, the Pharisees are told that if they did not know the truth, "were blind," then they would have no sin. Therefore knowledge of right or wrong is a necessary component of sin.
John 15:20-24
Remember the word that I said to you, "A slave is not greater than his master." If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name's sake, because they do not know the One who sent Me. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have both seen and hated Me and My Father as well.
Once again the revelation that is gained by experiencing the person and miracles of Christ is the difference between having sin and not having sin. If the persecutors had acted in the same way toward Jesus while not knowing of His works as they acted while knowing of His works, then they would not have sinned.
Romans 7:8-9
But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. And I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive, and I died.
Romans 4:15
for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, neither is there violation.
These passages also demonstrate that there is sin only with the knowledge of the law. When the knowledge of the law comes into the life of a person, because he is without God and therefore has only self to please, he rebels against the law. There is no “mark” to miss when the law has not made itself known. How can a target be missed when there is no target? It’s impossible.
The next passage has been used by some to show that there is sin without law.
Romans 5:13
for until the Law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.
The argument is that since there is no law between Adam and Moses, and since death is the result of sin and death reigned from Adam until Moses, there must have been sin during that time. The previous verse says that "all sinned," so it must be possible to sin without the Law, or so the argument goes. When Paul implies that there was no law between Adam and Moses, he must be referring to the Mosaic law or he would not have ended the "lawless" period with a reference to Moses.
The whole point of the passage is that there was indeed a law during that time. Since "sin is not imputed when there is no law", there must be an explanation for the imputation that actually did exist during that time. We know that there was an imputation, because "death reigned". There was no Mosaic law yet, but there was a law that could be known. Romans 2:14-15 points out that the Gentiles could know the law of God instinctively without the written revelation and were responsible for it. Paul's point is that there was a law to be obeyed, and he used the concept that sin must have law present to prove that there must have been some kind of law in existence.
Here is more evidence for my definition of sin:
Romans 14:23
But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and whatever is not from faith is sin.
In this passage, eating a certain substance is sin only if the one eating it believes the action to be sin. The converse is true also, if one believes that eating something is not sin, then it is not. How can the same action be sin for one person and not for the other? The answer is in the knowledge of the one eating. Here again, whether or not something is sin is based upon knowledge.
James 4:17
Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do, and does not do it, to him it is sin.
This verse is, in reality, an "if-then" expression that can be restated like this, "If a person knows the right thing to do and does not do it, then to him it is sin". The following statement is also true in light of the verse: If a person knows a wrong thing that he should not do and does it, then to him it is sin. This is simple to prove, because it can always be said that knowing to not do a wrong action is the same as knowing to do the opposite act.
The following statement also follows from the verse in James. "If a person does not know the right thing to do, and does not do it, to him it is not sin." Why? Because if knowledge wasn’t an essential part of defining sin, then James wouldn’t have included that phrase in his statement.
Therefore, James has succinctly stated the definition of sin that I proposed.
Also, notice that James says, "to him it is sin," not simply, "it is sin." Why did he write, "to him"? The simplest answer is, "because it may not be sin to someone else." To whom, then, would it not be sin? The answer would have to be, the one who did not know the right thing to do. Therefore, knowledge of right and wrong is necessary for sin to occur.
Since the biblical definition of sin includes knowledge, there is no sin without knowledge, or, at least, a responsibility to know. This definition does not exclude a person who knows he needs to know and yet refuses to learn. He knows what is right to do and doesn’t do it, so he is already in sin from the start.
A known law doesn’t have to be a biblically written law. As I mentioned before, we have a law written on our hearts. We instinctively know many rights and wrongs, and these likely include every moral law—lust, greed, coveting, lying, etc. So the person who breaks these moral laws, even though he has never read the Bible, is sinning.
For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness, and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them. (Romans 2:14-15)
Still, what is or is not sin in an individual is up to God’s judgment, not ours. He knows the hearts of mankind and can sweep away all pretense. In my experience, I have seen people accusing themselves of sin when they are not sinning at all. They might say something that hurts someone’s feelings, but they didn’t know it to be a hurtful statement until after the fact. That is not sin, nor is anything that is done in love and faith. I have also seen people sin grievously and think that it is not sin. They excuse their behavior based on a skewed or completely broken understanding of God’s holiness and expectations. Their intentional blindness doesn’t change the fact that they are sinning.
I have said many times that Christians don’t sin. The Bible makes that clear (1 John 5:18). Yet, I know people, who I believe are Christians, who think they sin, but they are calling things sin that are merely mistakes that occur due to lack of knowledge. So what’s wrong with calling something sin that isn’t really sin? It leads people to believe that real Christians commit real sins, and that can give sinners a false sense of security that they really are saved when they are not.
Readers of this blog might want to describe a scenario or a moral choice and ask, “Is this sin?” I’m not sure how well I will be able to answer questions like those, because not having an intimate acquaintance with a particular person’s heart, I am not qualified to make judgments in many cases. Still, I will try to help with sincere queries.
Next time, the Lord willing, I will raise typical objections to this definition of sin and show that the definition stands.
Fear is a sin. (1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.)
ReplyDeleteDoubt is a sin. (Jesus constantly told people to stop doubting and have faith. See John 20:27. Also Romans 14:23 says But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. )
Everything that does not come from faith is sin... (there is a definition for you. I suppose you'll claim all Christians do everything in faith, then?)
Anger is a sin. (Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca, ' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.)
Now, I am a Christian...saved...yet I still feel doubt, anger, and fear at times. That is wrong of me, and I am trying to do better, but I have felt these things since I've been saved.
And how do I know I'm saved? 1. The Bible tells me so. (Romans 10:9-10 told me what I needed to do to be saved and I did it.)
2. Holy Spirit testifies to it.
Not to seem rude or angry, but what right do you have to tell others they may not be saved because they sin. You asked someone in a previous entry on the comments how they knew they were saved, as if you were questioning their salvation! As if you had a right to do so...
Do you realize the doubts you may have caused in this young, impressionable person? (And since doubt is a sin...you are in essence causing others to sin, meaning you are sinning, per Matthew 18:6 But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.) You cause saved people to think that every time they sin, they have to be re-saved. Nowhere in the Bible does it say you have to be saved more than once.
I'm really not trying to be mean or angry, and I apologize if my posts seems that way, but I felt I needed to say these things.
Thanks for reading,
Cassie
Cassie, fear is sin when it is fear of the wrong things or the wrong kind of fear. We are commanded to fear the Lord. Jude says, "and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh."
ReplyDeleteThe verse you quoted says, "fear has to do with punishment." The context of that verse confirms exactly what I am saying. Verse 17 says, "we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world." Verse 18 is talking about fear of judgment. Since Christians are just like Jesus (as verse 17 says), and since we don't sin, we have no fear of judgment or its associated punishment.
Doubting things that are true about God is a sin. And Christians don't doubt God. But not all doubt is a sin. If we doubt untrue statements, that's certainly not a sin.
Yes, I claim that Christians do everything in faith. Your wording seems to indicate a decision beforehand not to believe that. Why wouldn't we do everything in faith? We have the power to do so as well as the desire to do so. It just stands to reason.
Not all anger is sin. God gets angry. Jesus got angry enough to drive people out of the temple with a whip. Paul says to be angry and yet not sin (Ephesians 4:26), so it is certainly possible to be angry without sinning.
You asked, "How do I know I'm saved?" The Bible says it's by whether or not we keep His commandments (1 John 2:3-4). This is the only concrete way given in the Bible by which we can know we are saved. Saying that the Spirit testifies to it can be true, but how do you know that it is God's spirit speaking to you? The only sure way is by whether or not you are obedient.
You asked, "what right do you have to tell others they may not be saved because they sin?" I have not only the right but also the duty. The Bible says that the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23) and that no one who is born of God sins (1 John 5:18). I would lack love if I were not to warn people of the wrath to come. In fact, to not tell people this crucial truth would be a sin.
You seem upset that I asked someone how someone knew they were saved. The person I asked the question asked me first, saying, "Does that mean I am not saved because I still sin?" So I was invited to converse about that topic.
Of course I'm going to ask someone how he knows he is saved. The Bible gives us the standard, so why shouldn't I communicate that standard?
If an unsaved person doubts his salvation, then that's a good thing, because if he doesn't doubt it, and therefore doesn't repent, he will go to hell.
Not all doubt is sin. Doubting things that aren't true is wisdom.
I am surprised that you would lay such an accusation against me, counting me with the hypocrites who lead the little ones astray. The ones who are leading the little ones astray are those who teach that you can be saved and still be a sinner, the people who would let them fall into destruction because they neglected the truth of the word of God.
I am telling them the truth in order to snatch them away from the evil one. Far from making them stumble, I am helping them walk in the true and straight path.
I have never said that people need to be saved twice. I am saying that sinners aren't saved. And I will continue to tell them the truth, that Christians don't sin, because the Bible says this again and again, and it provides the standard for salvation, a way to prove your salvation. And that standard is obedience.
If I raised doubts in that commenter's mind, then that's a good thing, because anyone who is still in sin needs to be warned. The person rowing toward a waterfall could be blissfully without doubt that there is no waterfall. If I refuse to warn that person because I don't want him to doubt, that would be ridiculous. Of course he needs to doubt his false perceptions. It's the only way he can be rescued from destruction.
If you are going to continue accusing me of sin, then don't bother commenting again. Your accusation is way out of line and not in keeping with biblical truth. I certainly haven't accused you of any sin, even though I strongly disagree with your stand and think it is extremely dangerous.
The Bible says that Christians don't sin, and the way to tell a true Christian is whether or not he obeys. So, on these biblical facts I set my foot. I will continue to teach them, hoping that impressionable young minds will doubt a false salvation and come to true faith and thereby experience the power of God to save them and make them holy.
I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree, then. Know that I am not trying to attack you or anything. I just disagree with what you are saying and doing here.
ReplyDeleteAll the best,
Cassie
I'm not sure what agreeing to disagree means. If you mean that I agree that we are disagreeing, then that's true. In fact, it's becoming obvious. :-)
ReplyDeleteYet, if you mean that we are at a stalemate and the issue cannot be resolved, then I don't agree with that. I think if the two of us met and we could see each other's love and passion for truth, we could hammer it out. Conversing by blog posts is not exactly the best way to communicate the love behind our actions.
Cassie, I hope you can understand and believe that what I'm doing is motivated by love and a desire to see people walk in the light. I must do what love compels me to do. If I did not, then I would be in sin. And love for my Lord Jesus is my driving force. If we could sit at a table and talk, I think we would be friends, and perhaps we would understand each other better.
Grace and peace to you.
Wow! That was well written and very well thought out. Even though I do disagree with you on some points- I still find your writing enthralling and thought I should let you know. :D
ReplyDeleteI have to say that I still disagree on some points with the "Christians do not sin" thing. And I'll adress that in a second. But I do agree with pretty much everything you said in this post about what sin is. I thought you brought some very good points to the light.
Like I said before though, I don't think that once you become a Christian you are suddenly sin-free. Yes, I do believe there is a transformation and we become a new creation. But I also believe it's a process to become sinless and it's called growing in your faith.
No, I don't think being sinless is somehow "unnatainable", otherwise God wouldn't tell us to be holy as He is holy. But I also believe that our faith is a growing thing and just because I haven't reached the level in spiritual maturity that you have, doesn't mean that I'm not a Christian.
I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm a Christian. That's not something that's up to debate. I have a close and personal relationship with Christ. But I still screw up sometimes. I still have trouble obeying the laws God set down for me to abide by.
But every time I fall, He lifts me up. He raises me up, wipes the dust off my back and pushes me forward in my relationship and obedience to Him.
And I've seen my life change through it. I'm seeing I sin less each day as I let Him mold and transform me.
But to tell me I'm not a Christian because I struggle with obeying my Mom or because I fight with my brother sometimes simply isn't true.
I have no trouble believing that others, such as yourself, have reached that level where you have stopped sinning. But I haven't yet. But I know I'm getting there and I see it on the horizon.
I mean this in all kindness, Mr. Davis, just in case any of this sounded like it wasn't (it's always hard to decipher emotions when it comes to writing).
Have a blessed day!
LOL. I see your point.
ReplyDeleteAnd I do believe you have the best of motives and intentions. I never actually thought otherwise. What really got me angry is, I suppose, is really something I feel very close to. You see, it is so, SO easy to be saved and then wonder if you are really saved (I used to do this, but not anymore). The salvation is there, but the peace from the salvation is not, and I would hate to see anyone who is truly saved robbed of that peace. It is not pleasant to live without the peace of Christ. Also, one who is unsure of their salvation is not as effective for the Kingdom as they could be. I understand that you are trying to show people who you believe are not saved the road to salvation. Obviously we disagree on some things, such as who is or isn’t saved, or rather, what being saved means, but I can’t fault your motives.
But you are right, blog writing or any form of online communication is not the best way to communicate. Subtle nuances, such as tone, cannot be transmitted over the internet.
So I suppose by "agreeing to disagree" I did mean that we were at a stalemate. I doubt you will change my mind, and I doubt I will change yours. But I do like a respectful and healthy exchange of ideas. And any conversation (albeit over the internet) that causes one to look more deeply at the Bible is a good one. I really wouldn’t mind continuing the discussion if you wouldn’t. But if you feel it is pointless or that something said…err, typed…might be taken the wrong way, I understand.
I have no doubt we could be friends. We have much in common (including zeal ;) ).
Thanks for reading and God bless,
Cassie
I'm curious to know what you think about people who are not able to understand the concept of sin. I have an autistic daughter, Anna, who will be 18 years old in May, but still functions at about 18 months. I believe she is a child of God. She loves praise and worship music and loves to have me pray with her. I've seen supernatural things, which I would never have believed if I hadn't seen them with my own eyes, of protection for her.
ReplyDeleteI believe Anna has a relationship with God that is different from my own because of her lack of understanding sin. Yet, we are all born into sin, so she is not "sinless" in the true sense of the word. Not while she is in her earthly body.
Thanks for the good discussion. It's good to ponder Scripture and the ways of God.
Pam, since sin is an intentional violation of the known will of God, your daughter is likely not sinning. And, although I am in the extreme minority on this view, I don't think anyone is born into sin. Original sin is not in the Bible, and such a doctrine would make God truly unjust. For He would be forcing people into sin and then condemning them for all eternity for something they had no choice in.
ReplyDeleteThanks - I've often thought how unfair it is that people have no choice. We attend a PCA church (reformed doctrine, Sovereign Election, etc) and I struggle with understanding it all. I know all the arguments on both sides and dont' really want to debate it here ... I believe people are saved by faith whether they believe in free-will or election. My job is to draw near to God and do what I believe He is calling me to do.
ReplyDeleteJust to make absolutely certain. Are you saying that you cannot sin unintentionally?
ReplyDeletePardon my saying, but that doesn't seem to be realistic or biblical. There was a sacrifice in the Bible in the OT for sins made unintentionally (if you really want, I can look it up for you—should you not believe me), and I don't see how that would have changed in the New. I sin unintentionally all the time. Rarely—comparatively—is my sin intentional, though to be sure that does happen. I'll also go to heaven, though, because I *am* saved, and God cannot take salvation away once he has given it. But that is another topic for another time.
Anonymous, it's not possible to sin unintentionally in the sense that we understand the word unintentional. I am familiar with the passages you're referencing, and that is one of the challenges I plan to address in my next post. That translation (unintentional) is not a good one, as I hope to show.
ReplyDeleteNot sinning at all is certainly realistic. The Bible teaches that Christians don't sin at all. (1 John 5:18) So it is both realistic and biblical.
I agree that God doesn't take away salvation. The question is whether or not someone had salvation in the first place. Their belief that they have salvation is not a proving factor. Many people believe they are saved when they are not, and their sin proves they are not, as Jesus said:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matthew 7:21-23)
The people who are turned away, are those who sin, even though they think they are saved.
I agree that you cannot sin unintentionally because if it wasn't intentional then it wouldn't be a sin at all, would it? I'm not sure if this is correct, so please tell me if I'm wrong.
ReplyDeleteBookworm, I think you're right.
ReplyDeleteMr. Davis, you said, "I don't think anyone is born into sin. Original sin is not in the Bible, and such a doctrine would make God truly unjust. For He would be forcing people into sin and then condemning them for all eternity for something they had no choice in."
ReplyDeleteCan you explain how that works a little more with biblical support? Are you saying that if somebody never sinned in their entire life, they would not need salvation? If so, what about Psalm 51:5?
And what about an unintentional sinful thought? If something crosses your mind, but you immediately suppress it, is that sin?
You also mentioned somewhere else on this topic (I've been reading up on your thoughts about sin all over your sites) that you have not sinned since you became a Christian. Did you have a time when you thought you were saved, but later discovered you wee not truly saved?
I'm on the fence regarding your views of sin... Maybe your answers will help me understand it better.
Jordan, thank you for the thought-provoking questions.
ReplyDeleteFirst, it seems clear to me that we are born without sin, because our spirits die when sin is activated by the coming of the Law.
I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died; and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me;
for sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. (Romans 7:9-11)
There was a time in our lives before we had sin, a time before we spiritually died. As Paul said in Romans 5:12 "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned."
Death spread to all men, not because Adam sinned, but because each person sinned. We die in sin because we each appropriated the sin Adam brought into the world, and we are saved because of the grace we appropriate that Jesus brought into the world.
As you noted before, if God imputed sin on every human at birth, then condemned them to eternal suffering for something they couldn't help but be a part of, then God would be a cruel monster. The people who believe this horrific doctrine have the burden of proof.
Regarding Psalm 51:5, it says, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me."
Who is the one in sin? Both verbs, "brought forth" and "conceived" refer to someone other than David. If David was brought forth in iniquity, then the iniquity is on the part of the one bringing forth, for that person was committing the verb. If his mother conceived him in sin, the sin must have been hers, for she was doing the conceiving.
There is nothing in that verse saying that the baby was in sin. David was simply saying that he was born in a sinful environment, thus explaining his later sinful behavior. There is no original sin in the verse at all.
I don't believe any sinful thought is unintentional. If it is a sin, then it must be a choice. If there truly is an unbidden thought, then it cannot be sin, for it wasn't your choice to bring it up. If you take the thought captive and cast it away, then you have dealt with it without sinning.
I do testify that I have not sinned since becoming a true Christian, and I thought I was saved for about eight years before learning about the freedom from sin that Jesus brings for all who die with Him on the cross (Romans 6:1-11). Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift!